I will continue to bash a university administration that refuses to acknowledge the rights of its students and faculty.

If this was all about health why aren’t they banning fast food? Obesity is a huge problem- which, by the way, we have to foot the hospital bills for

if smoking poses a health risk – you know – because of the smoke, then how does smoke – from the exact same source – not pose a health risk?

oh, and i was totally serious about drinking on campus. if only because having a bar on the 18th floor of POT would be totally epic….

-tt

so keep going.

with enough rhetorical bumbling one of you might stumble into some political discourse someone can employ towards something that matters…. like drinking on campus.

let’s get to work kentucky!

Hey Home Boy I drink and smoke Mary Jane on Campus each and every day! Cause I am Rick Janes Bitch! Who cares what the man declares as Law? I am free to do what I want! my Lawyer Loves Me.

so keep going.

with enough rhetorical bumbling one of you might stumble into some political discourse someone can employ towards something that matters…. like drinking on campus.

let’s get to work kentucky!

-t

As far as the college being paternalistic in banning smoking, it seems quite necessary when looking at the slideshow of pictures from the “protest.” Putting cigarettes in statues mouths, filling cracks with cigarette butts, and smoking 5 cigarettes at a time; WOW, quite the stance for a group of people calling this ban “paternal”. Perhaps UK should have been more selective when choosing to admit such sophomoric students and perhaps there should be MORE paternalistic rules.

But you are right; you should be allowed to smoke, and to die, for that matter. However, I would doubt that you would be willing to die without seeing a doctor for the illnesses associated with your “habit”. And I doubt you be willing to go to work on days you feel sick or are coughing up a lung from your habit. But, I double dare you: Don’t have the surgery on that growth in your mouth, and resist the oxygen tank that you now need because your lungs no long function to the degree mine do. Go for it.

So it is with a stone cold heart that says, if you want to smoke do it, but don’t bash non-smokers that pay for the ever increasing hospital bills that YOU accumulate because of your addiction. And don’t bash administrations and an organization for being paternalistic in creating an environment that accommodates people that value their health not to mention making an effort to educate them. After all, this is a college.

The Intellectually Empowered Faculty, Staff and Students of UK are glad they could entertain your acorn sized ganglion suspended behind the vacuum of your eyes Ms. Arnett. You say you are a smoker, then you should support us. We decided a peaceful protest along the lines of Ghandi, Rosa Parks, Rev. Jackson and Dr. Martin Luther King. I suggest watching documentaries on all these individuals as to find out what it really means to stand up for what you believe in. Can we count on you to stand up for us in the future, or will you continue to post tripe in your weak effort to support the Administration which continues to raise your tuition?

I am a casual smoker myself, but (4) I find this a waste of my intellectual energies to “protest” about when there is a (5) neverending war going on and (6) major double-digit percentage hikes in tuition transpiring throughout the United States.

For all of those commenting that UK is going the way off all other universities for rankings sake, actually, they are going the way of most every organization in the United States. (7)Gone out lately? (8)Ever noticed you can’t smoke in bars and restaurants anymore?

I could go on…(9)I recommend watching Harlan County USA or any documentary on Vietnam protests to find out what it really means to stand up for what you believe in. Again, it was cute. (10)Thanks for the half hour entertainment yesterday.

(1) It was very fashionable.
(2) Shameful wage, they get what the Commonwealth of Kentucky pays, and it is far above minimum.
(3) It was respectful and peaceful and legal, thank you very much.
(4) What Intellectual energies? Discontent is the first phase in the development of an individual and a nation.
(5) The War On Terror Will Never End. Your nation has been at war since 1775 google it.
(6) There is a theory of supply and demand which determines price. I hate it that I have to subsidize the failure of higher education with my hard earned tax dollars for a naive plebe like you.
(7) Yes I have. How about You? Have you got laid lately, seems you head is up you own behind.
(8) Ever notice bars and restaurants let you smoke outside their doors and outdoor seating areas?
(9) Real Protests cause damage to private and government property and people get killed for what they truly believe in, we can all see you believe in nothing. Ever notice how real protests are labeled as riots? Remember the LA Riots?
(10) Once again you are welcome Ms. Manners.

[b]Smoking Helps Protect Against Lung Cancer.[/b]
And here are some of the mice who helped to prove it!

http://web.archive.org/web/20050214135605/http://vialls.net/transpositions/smoking.html

[i]Every year, thousands of medical doctors and other members of the �Anti-Smoking Inquisition� spend billions of dollars perpetuating what has unquestionably become the most misleading though successful social engineering scam in history. With the encouragement of most western governments, these Orwellian lobbyists pursue smokers with a fanatical zeal that completely overshadows the ridiculous American alcohol prohibition debacle, which started in 1919 and lasted until 1933.[/i]

also…
I’m amazed that no one has mentioned the 25,000 dollars spent on (crappy, cheap looking) signage and another 20,000 on new trashcans. Does the university really think that having ashtray-less trashcans will be a major factor in peoples smoking decisions? What happened to the budget crisis?

I am a casual smoker myself, but I find this a waste of my intellectual energies to “protest” about when there is a neverending war going on and major double-digit percentage hikes in tuition transpiring throughout the United States.

For all of those commenting that UK is going the way off all other universities for rankings sake, actually, they are going the way of most every organization in the United States. Gone out lately? Ever noticed you can’t smoke in bars and restaurants anymore?

I could go on…I recommend watching Harlan County USA or any documentary on Vietnam protests to find out what it really means to stand up for what you believe in. Again, it was cute. Thanks for the half hour entertainment yesterday.

To the Students who organized and participated in your protest action – we say “Here, Here!” and “Good Work!” We are glad to see that the spirit of personal freedom is alive and well in Kentucky!

Please understand that no institution has the right to infringe upon the Constitutionally guaranteed rights of “Free Assembly.” The “tobacco control” lobby that has received millions in (tax exempt!) grants from private corporations who seek to sell their UNTAXED nicotine replacement products will give you no quarter. This is a scheme of “social engineering” … and freedom of choice, sovereign property rights, and safe alternatives such as ventilation in INDOOR spaces will be damned by these fascist “Nanny Staters.”

As a club member and long time smoker I offer this advice – PROPERLY DISPOSE of your spent smoking materials! No one wants to see your lovely campus (or your home town) littered with spent butts… and you will lose the support of even those who might be sympathetic to your cause, over this simple littering issue. Further, JOIN US at the smokersclubinternational.com – to learn more about the politics of tobacco, and why YOUR State is happy to revive both prohibition and segregation in revoking your personal right to choose. (Here’s a hint – “Follow the Money.”)

Yours in Solidarity!

In the mean time it is important to continue to smoke and use tobacco products on campus- do not cave in and quit because Todd and Hahn think they know what’s best for you. Use tobacco EVERYDAY on campus- if you are a nonsmoker like me, stand up for the rights of those who choose to use tobacco on campus.

We cannot quit now

Part of the reason for some of these things is because there are a large number of liberal and non-Kentucky people in the UK administration. So a ban like this is what you get with people who think Kentucky is a bunch of fat white smoking racists that need fixed.

They say freedom stops when you enter someone’s personal space — well, UK’s policy has not only entered my space but has deprived me of my right to have one !
Designated areas should be set – and public entrances — and such banned — but not deprived on grounds that is definitely breaking the boundaries of personal space and rights – I would never thought I would say this – but I would prefer to have a dress code honoring professors as a “rule” instead of the non-smoking cause I never remember nominating UK as my health nanny and authorized them to deprive me of personal rights when i enrolled at the university!!