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	<title>Comments on: High expectations follow Wall to UK</title>
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		<title>By: plemochoe</title>
		<link>http://kykernel.com/2009/11/04/high-expectations-follow-wall-to-uk/comment-page-1/#comment-9332</link>
		<dc:creator>plemochoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that Rick Garr thinks he&#039;s a smart cookie; and it is a bit of a puzzler - but he&#039;s wrong.

The complex noun clause does not have to be interpreted as a plural. It can be: Rick wants to say that the first part of the sentence, which mentions three things, must be equivalent for determination of number to &quot;these things&quot;, and so the whole sentence is equivalent to &quot;These things come with, etc.&quot;

Now, that&#039;s already goofy. What the writer of the sentence wanted to say is that &quot;these things come with the territory&quot; (which is a clichÃ©). In fact the sentence is backwards: the truth is that high expectations come with the territory WHEN YOU ARE the point guard, etc.

That was the actual thought. It&#039;s amazing how many perfectly good thoughts get garbled like that.

But to return to the first point: suppose you interpret that three-term noun clause (&quot;being the point guard, etc....&quot;) as a singular? This is what Rick thinks is impossible. Of course, we just showed conclusively that the whole sentence was mis-written, so we get a free shot here. 

But that shot is an easy one. If the noun clause was a plural, it would be (logically) equivalent to &quot;these things&quot;. But if it&#039;s a singular, it can still be held logically equivalent to &quot;All this&quot;:

Being the point guard, leader of the offense and the No. 1 recruit - all this comes with...

And the only way to decide between them is that if you read them out loud, the singular actually sounds less odd. But my re-writing of the sentence - &quot;High expectations come with the territory when you are the point guard, etc. &quot; is what the author meant to say, before dyslexia or whatever intervened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that Rick Garr thinks he&#8217;s a smart cookie; and it is a bit of a puzzler &#8211; but he&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>The complex noun clause does not have to be interpreted as a plural. It can be: Rick wants to say that the first part of the sentence, which mentions three things, must be equivalent for determination of number to &#8220;these things&#8221;, and so the whole sentence is equivalent to &#8220;These things come with, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, that&#8217;s already goofy. What the writer of the sentence wanted to say is that &#8220;these things come with the territory&#8221; (which is a clichÃ©). In fact the sentence is backwards: the truth is that high expectations come with the territory WHEN YOU ARE the point guard, etc.</p>
<p>That was the actual thought. It&#8217;s amazing how many perfectly good thoughts get garbled like that.</p>
<p>But to return to the first point: suppose you interpret that three-term noun clause (&#8220;being the point guard, etc&#8230;.&#8221;) as a singular? This is what Rick thinks is impossible. Of course, we just showed conclusively that the whole sentence was mis-written, so we get a free shot here. </p>
<p>But that shot is an easy one. If the noun clause was a plural, it would be (logically) equivalent to &#8220;these things&#8221;. But if it&#8217;s a singular, it can still be held logically equivalent to &#8220;All this&#8221;:</p>
<p>Being the point guard, leader of the offense and the No. 1 recruit &#8211; all this comes with&#8230;</p>
<p>And the only way to decide between them is that if you read them out loud, the singular actually sounds less odd. But my re-writing of the sentence &#8211; &#8220;High expectations come with the territory when you are the point guard, etc. &#8221; is what the author meant to say, before dyslexia or whatever intervened.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Garr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Garr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incorrect:

Being the point guard, the leader of the offense and the No. 1 recruit in the country comes with high expectations and praise from many different sources.

Correct:

Being the point guard, the leader of the offense and the No. 1 recruit in the country COME with high expectations and praise from many different sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incorrect:</p>
<p>Being the point guard, the leader of the offense and the No. 1 recruit in the country comes with high expectations and praise from many different sources.</p>
<p>Correct:</p>
<p>Being the point guard, the leader of the offense and the No. 1 recruit in the country COME with high expectations and praise from many different sources.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; BBL: USA Today tackles UK-U of L, and other links John Clay&#8217;s Sidelines</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; BBL: USA Today tackles UK-U of L, and other links John Clay&#8217;s Sidelines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Metz Camfield of the Kentucky Kernel writes on John Wall and high expectations. [...]</description>
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